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		<title>By: Index Mutual Funds Are Still Not Popular, But</title>
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		<dc:creator>Index Mutual Funds Are Still Not Popular, But</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by the S&amp;P/IFC Emerging Markets Index. But that&#8217;s not the whole picture. There are still active funds that beat the S&amp;P 500. And Morningstar&#8217;s study found that the average fund beat all but one of its category Russell [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by the S&amp;P/IFC Emerging Markets Index. But that&#8217;s not the whole picture. There are still active funds that beat the S&amp;P 500. And Morningstar&#8217;s study found that the average fund beat all but one of its category Russell [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ShareBuilder Starts to Offer ING Funds</title>
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		<dc:creator>ShareBuilder Starts to Offer ING Funds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] choice. The only one fund from ING I know is ING Corporate Leaders Trust B (LEXCX), one fund that beats the S&amp;P 500 index in the past 10 years.  Digging a little deeper, maybe I can find a good fund        Categories : Mutual fund, Investing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] choice. The only one fund from ING I know is ING Corporate Leaders Trust B (LEXCX), one fund that beats the S&amp;P 500 index in the past 10 years.  Digging a little deeper, maybe I can find a good fund        Categories : Mutual fund, Investing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Money Links For 12-10-07 &#124; 8ZU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Links For 12-10-07 &#124; 8ZU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finding the Funds That Beat the S&amp;P 500 by Sun @ The Sun&#8217;s Financial Diary. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finding the Funds That Beat the S&amp;P 500 by Sun @ The Sun&#8217;s Financial Diary. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I select based on expense ratio, duration and experience or management team, what they are invested in (international focus works best for now) and past performance compared to peers. Vanguard normally works best for me.

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I select based on expense ratio, duration and experience or management team, what they are invested in (international focus works best for now) and past performance compared to peers. Vanguard normally works best for me.</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: The Honest Dollar &#124; Belated Links: Carnival of Personal Finance</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Honest Dollar &#124; Belated Links: Carnival of Personal Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Finding the Funds That Beat the S&amp;P 500&#8221; from The Sun&#8217;s Financial Diary.  I think it&#8217;s always interesting to see how other people are making investment decisions. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Finding the Funds That Beat the S&amp;P 500&#8221; from The Sun&#8217;s Financial Diary.  I think it&#8217;s always interesting to see how other people are making investment decisions. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Got some MXB MSCI Inc. shares : stlplace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Got some MXB MSCI Inc. shares : stlplace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the way, for more information on mutual fund investing, you may want to check out my friend Sun&#8217;sFinancialDiary. I know he has a lot more experience on this topic than [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the way, for more information on mutual fund investing, you may want to check out my friend Sun&#8217;sFinancialDiary. I know he has a lot more experience on this topic than [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an easy way to test this theory. Go back 5 years, and find the funds that outperformed for the preceeding 10 years. Then see if they still outperform today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an easy way to test this theory. Go back 5 years, and find the funds that outperformed for the preceeding 10 years. Then see if they still outperform today.</p>
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		<title>By: irina</title>
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		<dc:creator>irina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently read &quot;Rational Investing in Irrational Times&quot; by Larry E. Swedroe and his other books. In his outspoken books, Mr. Swedroe virtually destroys mutual funds credibility in favor of index funds. 
Another interesting book I am reading is by Patrick W. Rice &quot;IRA Wealth, Revolutionary IRA Strategies for Real Estate Investment.&quot; 
At this point I am not sure what I am going to do with my IRA funds which are invested in mutual funds! 
If anyone wants to review those two books, it would be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently read &#8220;Rational Investing in Irrational Times&#8221; by Larry E. Swedroe and his other books. In his outspoken books, Mr. Swedroe virtually destroys mutual funds credibility in favor of index funds.<br />
Another interesting book I am reading is by Patrick W. Rice &#8220;IRA Wealth, Revolutionary IRA Strategies for Real Estate Investment.&#8221;<br />
At this point I am not sure what I am going to do with my IRA funds which are invested in mutual funds!<br />
If anyone wants to review those two books, it would be great.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a downside to funds with lots of assets - if you&#039;re counting on the manager to pick undervalued stocks they&#039;ll only have a limited number of opportunities, and more assets means they have to either hold lots of cash or choose weaker stocks, bringing down the average returns.

To the person who recommends looking for funds with bad performance: past successes don&#039;t mean there will be future successes, but past failures are an even worse indicator - especially with the recent gains. What you want are funds managed by people who have had past successes, but are well-priced now.

A good example of a successful fund is given in the book Unconventional Success: the fund in question has a 10-year record of beating the S&amp;P 500 by 4% with the same managers, but has slow years; in particular, the book mentions a lot of investors leaving it when it underperformed the internet bubble (earning a poor Morningstar rating). It&#039;s also closed to new investments on and off, since there&#039;s only so companies that meet the managers&#039; criteria. In addition, the managers and many employees of the management company (as well as their families) invest in the fund - so good performance is more than a way to gain assets and fees. It has reduced the expense ratio in the past. You&#039;ve thought of some of these requirements, but if it&#039;s possible to add more factors to the morningstart search it might help refine the list.

In the mutual fund world it can be hard to figure out who&#039;s really trying to give investors bigger returns without additional risk and who&#039;s just trying to track an index and collect fees for &quot;picking the right stocks&quot;. I hadn&#039;t thought of using a method like this to find the few truly superior funds, but it&#039;s an interesting idea.

If you do find a good fund, it might have slow years when a regular index is doing well, so balancing it with other assets could still help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a downside to funds with lots of assets &#8211; if you&#8217;re counting on the manager to pick undervalued stocks they&#8217;ll only have a limited number of opportunities, and more assets means they have to either hold lots of cash or choose weaker stocks, bringing down the average returns.</p>
<p>To the person who recommends looking for funds with bad performance: past successes don&#8217;t mean there will be future successes, but past failures are an even worse indicator &#8211; especially with the recent gains. What you want are funds managed by people who have had past successes, but are well-priced now.</p>
<p>A good example of a successful fund is given in the book Unconventional Success: the fund in question has a 10-year record of beating the S&amp;P 500 by 4% with the same managers, but has slow years; in particular, the book mentions a lot of investors leaving it when it underperformed the internet bubble (earning a poor Morningstar rating). It&#8217;s also closed to new investments on and off, since there&#8217;s only so companies that meet the managers&#8217; criteria. In addition, the managers and many employees of the management company (as well as their families) invest in the fund &#8211; so good performance is more than a way to gain assets and fees. It has reduced the expense ratio in the past. You&#8217;ve thought of some of these requirements, but if it&#8217;s possible to add more factors to the morningstart search it might help refine the list.</p>
<p>In the mutual fund world it can be hard to figure out who&#8217;s really trying to give investors bigger returns without additional risk and who&#8217;s just trying to track an index and collect fees for &#8220;picking the right stocks&#8221;. I hadn&#8217;t thought of using a method like this to find the few truly superior funds, but it&#8217;s an interesting idea.</p>
<p>If you do find a good fund, it might have slow years when a regular index is doing well, so balancing it with other assets could still help.</p>
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		<title>By: Money Links For 12-10-07</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Links For 12-10-07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finding the Funds That Beat the S&amp;P 500 by Sun @ The Sun&#8217;s Financial Diary. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Weekend Links - Shaking Hands with the Best Hands in the World Edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekend Links - Shaking Hands with the Best Hands in the World Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Sun&#8217;s Financial Diary is finding the funds that beat the S&amp;P 500 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t Pay For College, Credit Card Consolidation @ The Roundup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t Pay For College, Credit Card Consolidation @ The Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Sun&#8217;s Financial Diary goes through the interesting exercise of how to select mutual funds for an investment portfolio. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MossySF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MossySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Picking funds with terrible recent history isn&#039;t that far off. Reversion to mean is a common occurence -- today&#039;s losers often become tomorrow&#039;s winners and vice versa. Now the problem is deciding whether today&#039;s losers are down because their style is out of favor, they&#039;re unlucky or they&#039;re just crappy managers. It&#039;s impossible to tell until after the fact so for this type of scheme, I&#039;d stick with broad indexes and pick the sectors/classes/sizes/tyles that have done the worse. For example, this year REIT and Small Cap Value are down and probably will continue to go down for some time until the housing/mortgage fallout is over. So I&#039;d begin a multi-year DCA into REIT/SCV using money from sectors that have been booming lately (e.g. International, EM, TIPS).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picking funds with terrible recent history isn&#8217;t that far off. Reversion to mean is a common occurence &#8212; today&#8217;s losers often become tomorrow&#8217;s winners and vice versa. Now the problem is deciding whether today&#8217;s losers are down because their style is out of favor, they&#8217;re unlucky or they&#8217;re just crappy managers. It&#8217;s impossible to tell until after the fact so for this type of scheme, I&#8217;d stick with broad indexes and pick the sectors/classes/sizes/tyles that have done the worse. For example, this year REIT and Small Cap Value are down and probably will continue to go down for some time until the housing/mortgage fallout is over. So I&#8217;d begin a multi-year DCA into REIT/SCV using money from sectors that have been booming lately (e.g. International, EM, TIPS).</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m A Personal Finance Blog Junkie - Plus A Quick Stroll Through My Blogroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m A Personal Finance Blog Junkie - Plus A Quick Stroll Through My Blogroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sun is looking for funds that beat the S&amp;P 500. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Friday Finance Findings for December 7th : Generation X Finance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Friday Finance Findings for December 7th : Generation X Finance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finding the Funds That Beat the S&amp;P 500 - Want to beat the market? The Sun provides some information that just may help you reach that goal. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finding the Funds That Beat the S&amp;P 500 &#8211; Want to beat the market? The Sun provides some information that just may help you reach that goal. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey Blue Eyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey Blue Eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One criteria that should be included is length of tenure of the fund manager.  If the 5 and 10 year performance is due to another fund manager, then it may not get the same performance going forward.  I would posit that manager tenure is at least as important as Morningstar category and asset size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One criteria that should be included is length of tenure of the fund manager.  If the 5 and 10 year performance is due to another fund manager, then it may not get the same performance going forward.  I would posit that manager tenure is at least as important as Morningstar category and asset size.</p>
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		<title>By: Finding the Funds That Beat the S&#38;P 500</title>
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		<dc:creator>Finding the Funds That Beat the S&#38;P 500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read the rest of this great post here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: junger</title>
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		<dc:creator>junger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take the much easier route ... investing in Vanguard&#039;s S&amp;P 500 index fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take the much easier route &#8230; investing in Vanguard&#8217;s S&amp;P 500 index fund.</p>
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